Rallye Sachs-Baltic 1972-79

    I would like to know if someone could help me :


    1972 edition
    What was the complete name of Johannes Schnoor co-driver, Schwartz and in what group did he run ?


    1973 - how many starters and finnishers ?
    1974 - how many starters and finnishers ?


    What was the complete name of the driver classified in 2nd (Jensen) ?
    and the name of the co-driver in 7th (Jensen) ?
    In what group run the first 10 classified ?


    1975 - In what group run the first 10 classified ?
    1976 - how many finnishers ?
    in what group run 8th (Peter Hermann) and 10th (Martin Maas) ?


    1978 - In what group run the first 10 classified ?


    1979 - in what group run the 9th classified, Michael Werner ?


    Thanks in advance
    Best regards
    jorge (jorally)

    [quote='jorally','http://woltlab.rallye-forum.de/forum/index.php?thread/&postID=117981#post117981']I would like to know if someone could help me :


    1976 - how many finnishers ?
    in what group run 8th (Peter Hermann) and 10th (Martin Maas) ?


    1978 - In what group run the first 10 classified ?


    1979 - in what group run the 9th classified, Michael Werner ?
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    Hello Jorge,
    You'll be disappointed about the feedback. But there are not so many rally enthusiasts in this forum, who only nearly have such a knowledge in the history of rallying like you have.


    So it's not very much, I can help you. I have no result lists of this time, only articles from the former German magazin 'Sportfahrer', which normally have listed the first 3 in the class.


    In 1976 in the text they refer to different teams for 8th and 10th position


    They note:
    1. Darniche/Pitz
    2. Blomqvist/Sylvan
    3. Jaroszewicz/Zyskowski
    4. Lundgren/Johansson
    5. Hermann/Hübinger
    6. Brusch/Petan
    7. Berth/Richardt
    8. Schnoor/Liske
    9. Glad/Nedergard
    10. Helle/Hansen


    I did not find a reference to Peter Hermann, but when my rememberence is still working, he had a Group 2-Ascona. Codriver had been Konrad Schmidt, later the well-known owner of Schmidt Motorsport. About Martin Maas I have no knowledge.


    1978:
    1. Mortensen/Petersen, Triumph TR7, Gr. 4
    2. Fritzinger/Wanger, Toyota, Gr.2
    3. Svanholt/Svanholt, Porsche , Gr.4
    4. Petersen/Bockelmann, Porsche, Gr.4
    5. Laubjerg/Rasmussen, Vauxhall, Gr.4
    6. Brusch/Koldewei, Opel Kadett, Gr.2
    7. Herrmann/Schwägerl, VW Golf, Gr.1
    8. Knollmann/Hopfe, Audi 80, Gr.2
    9. Schnoor/Liske, BMW 2002, Gr.2
    10. Stöben/Kremeskötter, Ford Escort, Gr.1


    1979:
    Michael Werner had a Group 1-Escort.


    Best regards to Portugal
    le moulinon
    also known as 'kraut' in the international forum

    Thank You very much, le moulinon !


    In those kind of informations everyone is really precious !


    Thank You once more
    Best regards
    jorge

    Hi Jorally,
    I´m in contact with Martin Maas and also Johannes Schnoor. I wrote him a mail and if he is interested he can gives you al ot of informations.


    Best regards

    Zitat von Fellorock

    Hi Jorally,
    I´m in contact with Martin Maas and also Johannes Schnoor. I wrote him a mail and if he is interested he can gives you al ot of informations.


    Best regards


    Thank You very much, Fellorock ! That it was GREAT !


    My best regards
    jorge

    Hi Jorally,
    I talked to Martin Maas and he told me that the first name of the Codriver from Johannes Schnoor is Günther. (Günther Schwarz)


    Martin also told me that he finished the class 1977 with his BMW 2002 at 1st and 9th in the overall ranking.


    In 1976 Martin was Codriver from Hansi Möller BMW 1602. Result?


    For what chronic do you need this kind of information?


    Hi Fellorock !


    First of all my deeply thanks for your help !
    Those results are for a database concerning the European Rally Championship that I've been doing for a very long time.


    Regarding Mr. Martin did he run in group 2 in 1977 ?
    And don't He have documents regarding 1976 and 1977 he could shared like for instance some entry lists and complete final results ?


    Thanks in advance
    Best regards from Portugal
    jorge

    hi jorge


    Michael Werner run in ´79 Sachs-Baltic in group B9 with an Ford Escort RS.
    So it was a Gr. 2 car - not Gr. 1.


    Best regards
    Karlheinz

    Zitat von mettmann

    hi jorge


    Michael Werner run in ´79 Sachs-Baltic in group B9 with an Ford Escort RS.
    So it was a Gr. 2 car - not Gr. 1.


    Best regards
    Karlheinz


    Thank You very much, Karlheinz !
    I was about leaving this forum ... but seems there is a hope, after all !:)


    Best regards
    jorge

    Hi jorge,


    Sachs-Rally-Baltic 1975


    There were 119 cars at start 31 cars retired.
    The total distance of the rally was 1650km.
    The weather was good and no accidents.


    General classification:
    1. Walter Smolej/Willi Peter Pitz - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
    2. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
    3. Andrezej Jaroszewicz/Ryszard Zyskowski (Poland) Fiat Abarth 124 Gr. 4
    4. Holger Bohne/Franz Moormann - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
    5. Achim Warmbold/John Davenport - Renault Alpine Gr. 4
    6. Roger Ericson/Bruno Berglund (Sweden) Volvo 142 Gr. 2
    7. Hans-J. P. Herrmann/Konrad Schmidt Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
    8. Jan Glad/Per Nedergaard (Denmark) Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
    9. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
    10. Jörgen Hansen/Keld Christiansen (denmark) Opel Ascona 16 Gr.2


    Greetings
    Karlheinz


    Thank You very much, Karlheinz !
    Don't You know who won the group 1 in this rallye ? Could You tell me overall position, team and final time ?


    Thanks in advance
    Best regards
    jorge

    Zitat von jorally

    Thank You very much, Karlheinz !
    Don't You know who won the group 1 in this rallye ? Could You tell me overall position, team and final time ?


    Thanks in advance
    Best regards
    jorge


    Hi Jorge,
    at this time (1975) we know 5 groups:
    Group 1: Series Production Touring Cars
    Equivalent to current Group N, these were regular four-seated, unmodified production cars with minimum of 5000 units built annually.


    Group 2: Special Touring Cars
    Equivalent to current Group A, these were regular production cars modified for rally use. Minimum annual production was 1000 units. When Group 1 cars were modified, they became Group 2 cars.


    Group 3: Series Production Grand Touring Cars
    Grand touring (GT) or sports cars with minimum of 1000 units built annually. Preparation according to obligatory manufacturer homologation, minimal modifications only.


    Group 4: Special Grand Touring Cars
    Sport cars modified for rally use, minimum of 500 units built annually. When Group 3 cars were modified, they became Group 4 cars.


    Group 5 and 6: Prototype cars
    Extrapolated freely from unmarketed prototypes, no minimum production requirements.


    So at this competition the organizer of the Sachs-Rally Baltic did 2 groups together for one group-result.
    Gr.1 and Gr.3 cars in one group-valuation (series production) and Gr.2 and Gr.4 cars into another group-valuation (modified special cars).
    So I give you the group-valuation results for series production cars (Gr.1+Gr.3).
    1. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
    Team: Vergölst-Reifen-Service, Bad Nauheim
    2. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
    3. Morten Spiro/Else Yde (DK) Mazda RX3 Gr.3
    4. Freddy Kottulinsky/Dieter Grimkowski VW Golf 1600 Gr. 1
    Team: Formel-V-Europa, Hannover
    5. Josef Tröndle/Christian Geistdörfer BMW 2002 TII Gr.1
    AC Bavaria, München
    6. Harri Venske/Manfred Haase BMW 2002 TII Gr. 1
    7. Mogens Johansen/Peter Juul (DK) Mazda RX2 Gr. 3
    8. Johannes Schnoor/Jürgen Drews VW Golf 1600 Gr.1
    9. Hans Dänisch/Jürgen Finzel BMW 2002 TII Gr.1
    10. Sten Öhlenschlaeger/Svend Hansen (DK) Mazda RX2 Gr.3


    I'm sorry, I don't have the final times and also not the overall position.



    1. Walter Smolej/Willi Peter Pitz - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
    Team. Irmscher-Tuning, Winnenden
    2. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
    3. Andrezej Jaroszewicz/Ryszard Zyskowski (Poland) Fiat Abarth 124 Gr. 4
    4. Holger Bohne/Franz Moormann - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
    Team: Frawitt KG, Bremen
    5. Achim Warmbold/John Davenport - Renault Alpine Gr. 4
    Team: KWS-Autotechnik, Andernach
    6. Roger Ericson/Bruno Berglund (Sweden) Volvo 142 Gr. 2
    7. Hans-J. P. Herrmann/Konrad Schmidt Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
    Team: Matter-Überrollbügel, Karlsdorf
    8. Jan Glad/Per Nedergaard (Denmark) Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
    9. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
    10. Jörgen Hansen/Keld Christiansen (denmark) Opel Ascona 16 Gr.2


    Greetings
    Karlheinz:)


    Allways efficient, Karlheinz ! Thanks !:)


    Regarding 1974 !


    I was looking, as allways, for the groups of top-ten, number of starters/finnishers (also for 73 and 77) and the complete names of the crews which finnished 2nd and 7th .


    Thanks in advance
    Best regards
    jorge

    Hallo Rallye-Freunde aus Deutschland ,


    Ich brauche Hilfe .


    Ich bin suche für die Ergebnisse der Sonderprüfungen in Rallye Sachs Baltic 1976 . Können Sie mir helfen in dieser Frage?


    Bitte schreiben Sie mir auf Privat-Nachricht oder im Forum .


    Grüsse aus Polen
    ADAM

    Hallo Freunde, könnt Ihr mir helfen ? Ich bin suchen bilder von Rallye Sachs Baltic 1976 . Lancia Stratos HF der polnischen Mannschaft Andrzej Jaroszewicz / Ryszard Zyszkowski. Startnummer 1 .


    Ich werde sehr, sehr zufrieden mit Ihrer Hilfe Freunde ! :)


    MFG ,
    Adam
    POLEN

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