Alles anzeigenThanks once more, Karheinz ! It's great !
One question :
Does anyone who has been 8th,9th and 10th of the 76's edition ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge
Hi Jorge,
look at the attached files which I send to your private eMail. There you will find all you want to know.
Karlheinz:D
Thank You very much, Karlheinz !
Don't You know who won the group 1 in this rallye ? Could You tell me overall position, team and final time ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge
Hi Jorge,
at this time (1975) we know 5 groups:
Group 1: Series Production Touring Cars
Equivalent to current Group N, these were regular four-seated, unmodified production cars with minimum of 5000 units built annually.
Group 2: Special Touring Cars
Equivalent to current Group A, these were regular production cars modified for rally use. Minimum annual production was 1000 units. When Group 1 cars were modified, they became Group 2 cars.
Group 3: Series Production Grand Touring Cars
Grand touring (GT) or sports cars with minimum of 1000 units built annually. Preparation according to obligatory manufacturer homologation, minimal modifications only.
Group 4: Special Grand Touring Cars
Sport cars modified for rally use, minimum of 500 units built annually. When Group 3 cars were modified, they became Group 4 cars.
Group 5 and 6: Prototype cars
Extrapolated freely from unmarketed prototypes, no minimum production requirements.
So at this competition the organizer of the Sachs-Rally Baltic did 2 groups together for one group-result.
Gr.1 and Gr.3 cars in one group-valuation (series production) and Gr.2 and Gr.4 cars into another group-valuation (modified special cars).
So I give you the group-valuation results for series production cars (Gr.1+Gr.3).
1. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
Team: Vergölst-Reifen-Service, Bad Nauheim
2. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
3. Morten Spiro/Else Yde (DK) Mazda RX3 Gr.3
4. Freddy Kottulinsky/Dieter Grimkowski VW Golf 1600 Gr. 1
Team: Formel-V-Europa, Hannover
5. Josef Tröndle/Christian Geistdörfer BMW 2002 TII Gr.1
AC Bavaria, München
6. Harri Venske/Manfred Haase BMW 2002 TII Gr. 1
7. Mogens Johansen/Peter Juul (DK) Mazda RX2 Gr. 3
8. Johannes Schnoor/Jürgen Drews VW Golf 1600 Gr.1
9. Hans Dänisch/Jürgen Finzel BMW 2002 TII Gr.1
10. Sten Öhlenschlaeger/Svend Hansen (DK) Mazda RX2 Gr.3
I'm sorry, I don't have the final times and also not the overall position.
1. Walter Smolej/Willi Peter Pitz - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
Team. Irmscher-Tuning, Winnenden
2. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
3. Andrezej Jaroszewicz/Ryszard Zyskowski (Poland) Fiat Abarth 124 Gr. 4
4. Holger Bohne/Franz Moormann - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
Team: Frawitt KG, Bremen
5. Achim Warmbold/John Davenport - Renault Alpine Gr. 4
Team: KWS-Autotechnik, Andernach
6. Roger Ericson/Bruno Berglund (Sweden) Volvo 142 Gr. 2
7. Hans-J. P. Herrmann/Konrad Schmidt Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
Team: Matter-Überrollbügel, Karlsdorf
8. Jan Glad/Per Nedergaard (Denmark) Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
9. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
10. Jörgen Hansen/Keld Christiansen (denmark) Opel Ascona 16 Gr.2
Greetings
Karlheinz:)
Hi jorge,
Sachs-Rally-Baltic 1975
There were 119 cars at start 31 cars retired.
The total distance of the rally was 1650km.
The weather was good and no accidents.
General classification:
1. Walter Smolej/Willi Peter Pitz - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
2. Reiner Altenheimer/Hanno Menne Porsche Carrere RS Gr. 3
3. Andrezej Jaroszewicz/Ryszard Zyskowski (Poland) Fiat Abarth 124 Gr. 4
4. Holger Bohne/Franz Moormann - Opel Ascona Gr. 2
5. Achim Warmbold/John Davenport - Renault Alpine Gr. 4
6. Roger Ericson/Bruno Berglund (Sweden) Volvo 142 Gr. 2
7. Hans-J. P. Herrmann/Konrad Schmidt Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
8. Jan Glad/Per Nedergaard (Denmark) Opel Ascona 19 Gr. 2
9. Rolf Petersen/Hans-Jürgen Wachholz Porsche 911 SC Gr. 3
10. Jörgen Hansen/Keld Christiansen (denmark) Opel Ascona 16 Gr.2
Greetings
Karlheinz
Alles anzeigenHi jorge,
some news for you.
1976
8 Alfred Kuhlmann-Frank BMW 2002 ti Saarland
10 Bernhard Schonacher-Benz Opel Kadett GT/E SaarlandI will send you the complet results of this rally by email. But in advice I could't find your names.
5 Peter Holub-Hessbruggen Opel Ascona SR Estugarda
What do you mean with "Estugarda" - witch rally is this (german?)
1977
5 Dieter Scholl- Klaus Haase Porsche Carrera RS Vorderpfalz
8 Josef Burgey- Markus Brunner Opel Kadett GT/E Vorderpfalz
Attched files include the Result-list.
Good evening,
I wanted to know if someone has the information concerning the colmplete names of the group N winner in 84, Schaffer and Joero ..
Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge
Hi, the names of Gr. N winners are: Jürgen Schäfer / Wolfgang Jörg
Hi,
1982
6 John Peter Bittner-G. Schmitt Opel Ascona 2000i Metz
1985
9 Poul-Erik Jensen-Ole Hansen Opel Kadett GSi Baltico
Best greetings:)
Hi jorge,
some news for you.
1976
8 Alfred Kuhlmann-Frank BMW 2002 ti Saarland
10 Bernhard Schonacher-Benz Opel Kadett GT/E Saarland I will send you the complet results of this rally by email. But in advice I could't find your names.
5 Peter Holub-Hessbruggen Opel Ascona SR Estugarda
What do you mean with "Estugarda" - witch rally is this (german?)
1977
5 Dieter Scholl- Klaus Haase Porsche Carrera RS Vorderpfalz
8 Josef Burgey- Markus Brunner Opel Kadett GT/E Vorderpfalz
Hi,
I have same names you could try to find out or contact. This names are in the organizing committee of a later Sachs-Baltic.
General Clerk of the course - Hermann David, (D, Osterrönfeld)
Clerk of the course - Walter Börner (D, Kiel)
Assistant Clerks - Wilhelm Schnittcher (D, Kiel)
Anne-Lise Schönwandt (DK, Copenhagen)
Detlev Schönwandt (DK, Copenhagen)
Rally-Secretary - Eckhard Klau (D, Kiel)
Rally-Secretariate - ADAC Schleswig-Holstein
- Sports Department -
Tel. (0431) 66145
D, Kiel
Press & Public Relation - Fichtel & Sachs, (D, Schweinfurt)
Mr. H. G. Peters
Greetings
Karlheinz
Hi jorge,
it's as you aspected. In those days the organiser of the rallies wrote in the rally-regulations whitch car is in group 1 or group 2. The groups were divided mostly into 5 classes by ccm.
Some rally-organiser named the group A and B - and not 1 and 2. But it's the same.
In group 1 or A started cars with a Gr. 1 homologation an normaly in group 2 or B the cars with a Gr. 2, Gr. 3 or Gr. 4 homologation.
So, as you asked for the groups of Soltwedel etc.. I gave you the information A4. That means, this car is a Gr. 1 homologated car.
For example:
Group A (or 1) - all cars with Gr. 1 homologation
Class A1: up to 1150 ccm
Class A2: 1151 - 1300 ccm
Class A3: 1301 - 1600 ccm
Class A4: 1601 - 2000 ccm
Class A5: over 2000 ccm
Best regards
Karlheinz
Hi Carsten,
benötigst Du noch mehr Informationen oder Material von der KAW -bin sie bestimmt 5-6 mal gefahren?
Gruß Karlheinz
hi jorge
Michael Werner run in ´79 Sachs-Baltic in group B9 with an Ford Escort RS.
So it was a Gr. 2 car - not Gr. 1.
Best regards
Karlheinz
Hi,
Saarland 79 was:
overall 8 - # 15 Soltwedel/Mueller Gr. A4 Ford Escort RS
overall 9 - # 14 Werner/meurer Gr. A4 Ford Escort RS
overall 10 - # 16 Vogl/Hupf Gr. A4 Opel Kadett GTE
Best wishes
Karlheinz
hallo "le moulinon"
brauche die Bilder für meine persönl. Datenbank. Möchte gerne zu meinen Rally-Modellen die passenden Bilder der Fahrer, Beifahrer und Fahrzeuge haben.
Danke für Deine Hilfe.
Suche Bilder von Rob Arthur. War meist bei Tony Pond Beifahrer in den 80er und 90er (MG Metro).
Wer kann mir helfen?
Danke
